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Post by pg.GrandPooBa on June 10th 2014, 9:16 pm

So as some of you know I am going to attend Diecon and plan on playing in 2 events with hopefully qualifying for the 3rd one.

Tournament one.
35 point, 2nd list optional (so no divide and conquer), 7 minute timed turns. This is the only Qualifying Tournament I can enter since the other one is Hardcore which just isn't me.


1s List is for Cygnar, Menoth, Retribution, Circle, Legion with somewhat covering of Mercs, Cryx, Khador.

Feora 2
-Reckoner
-Redeemer
-Templar
Vassal of Menoth x 2
Vassal Mechanik
Wrack
Min Choir
Max Zealots + UA
Saxon  Orrik

Now I debated whether to put the Judicator in since I feel that its harder to deal with at 35 points. As well as if Saxxon is worth the Pathfinder for Feora 2 and zealots. Thoughts?


2nd List is for Mercs, Minions, Skorne, Khador, Cryx and somewhat covering Legion.

Harbinger
-Hierophant
-Reckoner
Max Errants + UA
Visigoth Rhoven + co
A+H with Attendent preist.
Gorman
Nicia
Wrack
Covenant
Rhupert

This list just abuses Martyrdom at the 35 point level with less threats on the table for Harby. The question is whether to take out the Hierophant since I normally don't run him with Harbinger and add 1 more business piece. Thoughts?

Now a 3rd list I'm debating on bringing is a Kreoss 3 T4 List maybe as a heavy Skew List?

Kreoss 3
-Fire of Salvation
Min Choir
Vassal of Menoth
Vassal Mechanik
Gravus
Max Vengers x 2

Its a low model count list that I have had success with and it's a ton of fun. I just dont know if people will look at it and be like HS I don't want to face that List. Thoughts?

Tournament 2
50 point, Minimum Tier 3, 2nd list optional

Legions of Faith T4

PSevvy
-Hierophant
-BoV
-Reckoner x 3
Max TG +UA x 2
Max Choir 3
Wrack 1
Vassal Mechanik
Vassals x 2

Benefits
T1 = Wracks deploy 20'"
T2 = Extra TFG UA
T3 = WJ gets advance move for each Vassal Mechanik
T4 = All upkeeps out and free on first turn.

Revelations of the Creator T4

Kreoss 3
-Reckoner
-FoS
Vassal of Menoth x 2
Vassal Mechanik
Min Choir
Max Vengers x 2
Max Errants + UA

T1 = +1 Cav FA
T2 = +1 Starting roll
T3 = -1PC on HWJ without a gun
T4= Each unit of Choir gives a HWJ advance move.

Masters Lists

Harbinger
-Reckoner
Vessel of Judgement
Covenant
Wrack
Rhupert
Vassal Mechanik
Vassal of Menoth
Vilmon
Nicia
Min Choir
Max EE + UA
A+H
Max Zealots + UA

Kreoss 1
-Reckoner
-Reckoner
-Redeemer
Vessel of Judgment
Vassal of Menoth x 2
Wrack
Vassal Mechanik
Taryn di la rovissi
Gorman
Min Choir
Max Zealots + UA
Rhoven + Co

Feora 2
-Reckoner
-Vanquisher
-Redeemer
-Templar
Vassal of Menoth x 2
Wrack
Eiryss 2
Min Choir
Max Zealots + UA
Max TFG + UA











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Re: Diecon Lists Preperation.

Post by Celebros on June 10th 2014, 9:39 pm

I think the Feora2 list is fine.  I usually don't bother taking Saxon with her, but Pathfinder is always nice to have.

Your Harbinger list is a bit more solo-heavy than I run. I would prefer a bit more "meat" in the list myself, probably opting for a Redeemer in place of some of the luxury solos.

I think Kreoss3 Theme at 35-points is a strong play, although I would run it like this:

Kreoss3
-Fire of Salvation
Exemplar Errants (Max.)
-Officer & Standard
Exemplar Vengers (Max.)
Exemplar Vengers (Max.)

I think Max. Errants+UA is a stronger option than Gravus plus a couple of support solos.
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Re: Diecon Lists Preperation.

Post by Crawling Chaos on June 11th 2014, 5:59 am

I don't like the support to Killy stuff ratio in the Harbinger list. I would probably go:
Harbinger -5
•Reckoner 8
•Devout 5
•Heirophant 2
Max Bastions + solo 11
Max Errents + UA 10
Rhupert 2
Book 2
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Re: Diecon Lists Preperation.

Post by eChad on June 12th 2014, 12:26 pm

I like the battlegroup you have with Feora. I feel like Saxon is almost a waste of 2 points at 35 in this particular list. I'm also not a fan of Vassal Mechaniks in general, so I would drop those 2 models to take an Eiryss, perhaps.

I'm going to disagree with the others on the Harbinger list. I really like it as is. You could drop the Hierophant and/or the Priest if you want some more threat pieces. I would take 1 or more paladins in their place if you did. You probably want to keep the Hierophant at least if you really want to abuse Martyrdom. I don't think the priest is as important.

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Re: Diecon Lists Preperation.

Post by Slowerlitespeed on June 12th 2014, 8:34 pm

I kind of agree with Brian about the harby list. If that list I meant to handle cryx, then I feel like you need more threat. At 35 points, cryx can bring a ton of Killy shit, that can wait out a harby feat turn.

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Re: Diecon Lists Preperation.

Post by pg.GrandPooBa on June 15th 2014, 8:22 pm

So here is the final versions of the two lists.

Feora 2
-Reckoner
-Redeemer
-Templar
Vassal of Menoth x 2
Wrack
Min Choir
Max Zealots + UA
Eyriss 2

I liked your idea Chad for adding Eyriss 2 so I decided to go with that.

Harbinger
-Reckoner
Max Errants + UA
Visigoth Rhoven + co
A+H with Attendent preist.
Gorman
Vassal
Nicia
Wrack
Covenant
Rhupert

I decided to take out the Hierophant and add in a vassal seeing as I only have 1 heavy I wanted to make sure that I gave it every opportunity to stay alive.

I really think that the list can bring alot of killing potential to units. Errants love killing undead as well as having A+H and Nicia can really help thin out units if im out numbered.

If I do go with Kreoss 3 which it is probably a no i really like the list you suggested Brian. FoS has alot of good tools with Kreoss 3 so NOT having a choir is not a big deal.

Going to update the original post with my other lists for the other 2 tournaments.





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