Karchev as a Cryx Drop?!?!

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Karchev as a Cryx Drop?!?!

Post by DanS on May 28th 2014, 12:58 pm

Karchev the Terrible (*5pts)
* Behemoth (13pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Alexia Ciannor & the Risen (Alexia and 9 Risen Grunts) (5pts)
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt (4pts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 2 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers (2pts)
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution (3pts)
Kovnik Andrei Malakov (3pts)
* Beast-09 (11pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)
Ogrun Bokur (3pts)

This list delivers a 23" threat range, Red-Lined Beast 09.  I cannot think of many Warmachine casters that can survive that, and it might even kill a beast via transfers.  The rest of the list is there to clear lanes and protect Karchev if necessary.  Karchev might be a Cryx drop?!?!?!?!
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Post by milothewise on May 30th 2014, 1:07 pm

You have the infantry clearing for it. Going to be hard to get a jack on a caster through a Cryx infantry swarm, though. eLich seems bad for you, as does pDenny.

I don't know. Does Karchev do anything OTHER than upkeep Tow? Is that enough? I'd need to see it on the table, I guess.
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Post by milothewise on May 30th 2014, 1:09 pm

Also, with this in your lineup your uVlad list looks like:
::YOINK::
Vladimir Tzepesci, Great Prince of Umbrey (*5pts)
* Drago (7pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Greylord Outriders (Leader and 4 Grunts) (9pts)
Greylord Outriders (Leader and 4 Grunts) (9pts)
Iron Fang Uhlans (Leader and 2 Grunts) (7pts)
Iron Fang Uhlans (Leader and 2 Grunts) (7pts)
Man-o-war Drakhun (with dismount) (5pts)
Man-o-war Drakhun (with dismount) (5pts)
Fenris (5pts)

When do you drop this, if Karchev is your Cryx drop? When is this better than uButcher?
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Post by DanS on May 30th 2014, 2:04 pm

Karchev was tweeked just a little bit to be my Circle Drop. I still think that he would be good vs. Cryx.

I mostly wanted three list that may reach out and kill your caster at any given time.
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Post by DanS on June 2nd 2014, 10:23 am

Played this list at Lou's a couple nights ago vs. Shade3
 
Karchev the Terrible (*5pts)
* Behemoth (13pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Alexia Ciannor & the Risen (Alexia and 9 Risen Grunts) (5pts)
Battle Mechaniks (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (4pts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 3 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers (3pts)
Kovnik Andrei Malakov (3pts)
* Beast-09 (11pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)
Ogrun Bokur (3pts)
 
 
It played very well, but lost...I have never rolled three ones on a damage roll vs. a caster before. Sad
 
Turn two I comit Beast and Big-B to kill all of the Bane Riders and my WGDS kill most of the Raiders.
 
He feats to statonary and kill most of the WGDS and his Soul hunters charge Karchev and leave him with 14 Boxes.
 
He had to come forward to feat, so after clearing out some chaff with Alexia and a few Winter Guard, Karchev sprays Shade and knocks him down boosting damage.  Then Big-B boosts damage on two bombards and leaves him on about seven health.  My Widowmakers valiantly try to finish him off at dice -7, but come up three boxes short. Average should have been about 22 damage, contingent on the boosted spray hitting.
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Re: Karchev as a Cryx Drop?!?!

Post by Slowerlitespeed on June 2nd 2014, 4:36 pm

Yep, not casting occultation almost cost me a game that swung in my favor after the feat turn. Not a mistake I will make again

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