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Kaelyssa's new tier nonsense

Post by milothewise on May 6th 2014, 8:58 am

RNG 25, POW 25 on turn 1. RNG 35, POW 35 on turn 2.  Good luck!

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Post by Psychotrshman on May 6th 2014, 12:17 pm

I have not seen any of the cards involved in making this work, but I do have a question. Do the abilities that allow this to happen really stack that many times? My understanding is that effects and bonuses can't stack. From the way it sounds on the PP forums the same ability has to stack 11 times to reach those stats.

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Post by eChad on May 6th 2014, 1:24 pm

It's not an effect that stays in place - it's just an action that takes place. 11 times.

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Post by milothewise on May 6th 2014, 1:50 pm

It's a goofy interaction built into a tier list that didn't get enough editing before press. They'll fix it.
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Post by Psychotrshman on May 6th 2014, 1:52 pm

If it's not fixed before Lock N Load, I wonder how many people will play that list. Haha.

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Post by eChad on May 6th 2014, 2:48 pm

If it's still legal by LnL, it will be like the Black Summer in M:tG.

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Post by Psychotrshman on May 6th 2014, 4:02 pm

What is the Black Summer in M:tG?

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Post by eChad on May 6th 2014, 4:17 pm

Necropotence was busted-good card that absolutely dominated the tournament scene in Magic for a while. A card that, when they designed it, they clearly did not understand the power of what they were making, and were a bit slow in banning it.

Same here. Lobbing POW26s into the deployment zone on turn 1 is utterly ridiculous. 0% chance this doesn't get errata'd.

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Post by Psychotrshman on May 6th 2014, 4:30 pm

I actually saw a few minutes ago on the PP forums that it's under review now and that if they feel it need errata that it'll be fixed before printing. Haha. Pow 26's even outside of turn one sound pretty brutal. I think the highest I have seen is pow 19 on a raged mauler. I thought that was pretty good. Haha.

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Post by eChad on May 7th 2014, 4:50 pm

They're changing the wording to "allocate", so Arcanists cannot give focus above 3. That took about as long as I expected.

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Post by Psychotrshman on May 8th 2014, 10:02 am

Assuming that makes them Range 17 Pow 17, that still isn't too bad. If they have a decent RAT your still looking at hard hitting on turn 1 if you go second and turn 2 if you go first. Not a turn one, one shot caster kill, but still a serious threat.

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Post by eChad on May 8th 2014, 12:01 pm

I think he's RNG 12 POW 12 base, so he could only get to RNG15 POW15 without taking damage.

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Post by Servo on May 8th 2014, 1:03 pm

Anyone who was seriously concerned about this has a pretty loose grip on reality

PP isn't perfect, but they clearly care about the game enough to prevent bullshit like this from affecting players
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